[00:00:10] Ray Latif: Hello, dear friends, and thanks for tuning in to Taste Radio, the number one podcast for anyone building a business in food or beverage. I'm Ray Lateef, the editor and producer of Taste Radio, and with my co-host for this episode, John Craven, Jacqui Brugliera, and Mike Schneider. Marina Del Rey MDR. Here we are.
[00:00:31] John Craven: You're all riled up now. I love it. You're in full events excitement mode.
[00:00:36] Ray Latif: Hello dear friends. That's every day.
[00:00:39] John Craven: I don't know. I wasn't sure if it was more intense because I was in person. We get a 10 every day and then somehow you're like spinal tap. You just turn it up to 11. I think it was because he had a nice helicopter ride into the roof here. Oh yeah, right, right, right. He took the bev chopper.
[00:00:52] Ray Latif: Yes, I feel like a VIP.
[00:00:54] John Craven: Well, luckily my chopper didn't slide off the runway like you guys That's three bad flights in a row the one from London caught on fire I had that really rickety landing coming back and then yeah And then my my plane this morning had an aborted takeoff skidded off the runway because the engine failed That's no good, but we're here in California LA
[00:01:20] Ray Latif: More specifically, as I mentioned, Marina Del Rey, and we're recording this right before Nosh Live begins, but when you're listening to this, Nosh Live will be in full swing, and I know the question that everyone has to ask the four of us is, did Mikey get that selfie? With Khloe Kardashian. And I called you Mikey. I don't know why I called you Mikey.
[00:01:41] Jacqui Brugliera: I'm like, who's Mikey?
[00:01:43] Ray Latif: Aunt Sue, is that you? Aunt Sue. No, I assume you're going to try to get one, no?
[00:01:49] John Craven: Oh yeah, of course.
[00:01:49] Ray Latif: Security's been briefed. Really? How many bodyguards is she supposed to have with her? At least 12.
[00:01:54] John Craven: No, I have no idea. A dozen? Okay, that sounds about right. I mean, whatever an appropriate amount of security is for someone of her stature.
[00:02:02] Mike Schneider: Is she using the helipad?
[00:02:03] John Craven: That's my question. I'm going to get a selfie with Jing. That's who I want to get a selfie with.
[00:02:07] Ray Latif: Yes, okay. Jing Gao, the founder and CEO of FlyPy Jing. Khloe Kardashian, the founder of a brand called Cloud. K-L-O-U-D. K-H. I'm sorry, K-H. I forgot there's a K-H there. Like Khloe. Like Khloe, yes. which is a brand of protein popcorn we've talked about on the podcast. And she's gonna be up on stage with the CEO of the company, that's Jeff Rubenstein. Or maybe she's already been on stage, considering everyone's... Oh my god, we're talking about timelines.
[00:02:31] John Craven: Yes, timelines and travel and whatnot. The multiverse. Fake mic, running mic, numpty mic.
[00:02:35] Ray Latif: Well, if you're listening to this and you were at Nosh Live, it was great to see you. Thanks so much for coming out. If you're thinking about coming out to Brewbound or BevNET Live, BevNET Live is beginning on Sunday, Sunday the 7th. Brewbound Live happening on the 10th and 11th. To be more specific, BevNET's happening the 7th through the 9th of December. So if you haven't gotten your tickets yet, we've been screaming at you for weeks on end. Now is the time to do it, especially if you're based in California. It's just a short drive away. And it is the most action-packed BevNET Live of all time and the biggest brew-bound live of all time. So, and all these people that are going, you're going to be like, ah, I should have gone. I should have been there. Just, just, just sign up. Just register. You don't have to worry about that.
[00:03:21] John Craven: It's a short drive away. If you live in Delaware. I mean, we should ask Joe, who's our audio engineer, how his drive was down from Sacramento. Did you drive from Sacramento? It was just a $10 Uber. Alex Wright, Joe Ben, just drive on over from London.
[00:03:38] Ray Latif: You know what I'm talking about. I mean, it's an easier trip for most folks, if you're living anywhere between Central and Southern California, than it is for, to say, come from Boston. Right?
[00:03:50] John Craven: No.
[00:03:50] Ray Latif: All right. Well, then just don't come to DevNet Live or Blue Mountain Live.
[00:03:55] John Craven: There is a chance that you live 10 miles away and it takes you two hours to get here.
[00:04:00] Ray Latif: That's true. What if I live in Eureka, Ray? Eureka? Yeah. I don't know. I don't know where that is. I remember there was a show called Just the Ten of Us. Do you remember that show? It was like a late 80s. It was about this guy.
[00:04:10] John Craven: It was on what channel, Ray? No, no. What channel number? I don't know. Just trying to show your age. Because the old guy on the podcast.
[00:04:20] Ray Latif: Please. It's on Netflix. It's a brand new show. Anywho, one of our speakers at BevNET Live is going to be Bill Krielman, who's the founder, former CEO, because he sold the company, of Spindrift. Everyone loves Spindrift. The brand of sparkling waters made with real fruit, real fruit purees.
[00:04:34] John Craven: Real yuzus.
[00:04:35] Ray Latif: Yes. This is their yuzu mandarin variety that I have in my hand. I may or may not have stolen this from the sample room. And my goodness, it's so good. You guys should have had one. You look like you're very thirsty, the three of you. Oh, you should see what I've been drinking.
[00:04:49] John Craven: I'll share it shortly.
[00:04:51] Ray Latif: Yes, you should. Prebiotic Pepsi? No, I believe it's a very special beverage sold at the world famous, now world famous, Erewhon. Yeah, it's bone broth based hot chocolate. Yes.
[00:05:04] John Craven: We should mention what brand it is.
[00:05:05] Ray Latif: Yes, of course. I'm going to mention what brand it is.
[00:05:07] John Craven: You've been to Erewhon already? Yeah. Well, I've been to Erewhon like five times. Maybe Giusta ten times. Straight from the airport. Oh my gosh. No, I went to Erewhon. It was a surgical sort of mission. But not to get this. This got delivered. I'm siding off runways and I haven't even had my germ warfare shot yet. I was going to buy one. They did not have it. Oh, man.
[00:05:28] Mike Schneider: They have it?
[00:05:29] John Craven: What? Are they out?
[00:05:30] Jacqui Brugliera: What are we going to do? Jackie, we got it.
[00:05:31] John Craven: We got to go get the German Warfare. The shot selection looked a little small.
[00:05:34] Jacqui Brugliera: Maybe they're paramedic.
[00:05:35] John Craven: I'm not going to survive. I'm going to have to go to Santa Monica. But I did get some good stuff.
[00:05:39] Ray Latif: Well, I'm excited to jump into that stuff, or at least dive into the stuff, not really jump into your groceries. Do you want some bone broth now? Yeah, I do. And the brand of bone broth, since you mentioned it, John, it's a good thing you mentioned it. It's called Fond Regenerative. So, oh, look at that. It's like brown bags.
[00:05:54] John Craven: Why isn't it cold sack?
[00:05:55] Ray Latif: It's in a cold sack. It's literally brown bags. The bag says, made especially for carrying frozen foods and cold products. I assume that also extends to hot products. Hold on.
[00:06:08] Mike Schneider: Interesting.
[00:06:09] John Craven: so you order it like a coffee just to be clear a PR company for said bone broth company yes thanks arranged for this delivery I would not be one to air one to my hotel especially when I'd just been to air one like an hour before but tomorrow I'll probably DoorDash from Erewhon.
[00:06:33] Ray Latif: Well, shout out to Holly Corrales, who is the wonderful public relations executive who made this all happen. Yeah, this is the first time I've had anything from Erewhon delivered. And oh, oh, oh, the laptop.
[00:06:45] John Craven: No, I'm just kidding. Right over the laptop. There he goes. OK.
[00:06:47] Mike Schneider: It smells better than I was expecting.
[00:06:49] John Craven: Yeah. I mean, I already had a cup of this a little earlier and I'm going back for more.
[00:06:54] Jacqui Brugliera: All right.
[00:06:54] Ray Latif: Oh, that's a good sign. God, I always forget the bones. I don't do the bones.
[00:06:58] John Craven: No bones. No, I got I got I got Jackie a vegan product that we can have next.
[00:07:03] Ray Latif: So I never would have expected that I would ever be drinking a hot chocolate made with a bone broth base. But somehow it works. I think chocolates and the sort of gaminess of bone broth work really well together. It's like it's more cacao than it is chocolate.
[00:07:20] John Craven: Yeah, it's like a savory, like I was thinking before, it almost feels like I'm drinking a drink that was made with like a mole sauce. Yes, that is a great shot. It almost tastes like that Mexican chocolate. It does taste like Mexican hot chocolate. By the way, I have a nice Mexican hot chocolate bar in front of me here. Why don't you have that and you can be in our team here. But my first taste of this, I was expecting something different and now it's growing on me. If you have one of these, wait for your third sip, I think, to judge it.
[00:07:53] Mike Schneider: Is it spicy?
[00:07:55] John Craven: It's spiced. Like mole sauce. There's some zest to it. Like that. It's that level of spice.
[00:08:05] Ray Latif: Well what Jackie's munching on is from a brand called Unite. And Unite is a maker of protein bars that feature global flavors. The one that you have is your Mexican hot chocolate variety. And I always loved Unite Foods because I met the founder, Clara Pei, just as the pandemic was hitting in 2020. And she joined us, I believe it was the first episode of Elevator Talk that we did, at least in that format. And it's so great to see how well that brand is doing. We are going to see her. We already saw her timeline at Nosh Live.
[00:08:40] John Craven: I mean, she's one of those people you want nice people to win. And if you like nice people, you'll like Clara.
[00:08:46] Ray Latif: Yes, Unite Foods is the name of the brand. It's great stuff. Yeah, very tasty. I would describe it as better for you, right? I would describe it as, you know, it's a processed food, as all protein bars are, but it's a better for you protein bar.
[00:09:04] Mike Schneider: Yeah, it tastes delicious. It has like good nutrition on the front of the pack, like under 200 calories and 10 grams of protein. It says it's made with real almond butter. With hints of cinnamon and warm chili.
[00:09:14] John Craven: And there's baklava and churro.
[00:09:16] Mike Schneider: Yeah, I love all the flavors that they have, like global flavors.
[00:09:19] Ray Latif: I don't think the folks who run this government of San Francisco are going to have a problem with that. But they do have a problem with over-processed foods that are produced by quote-unquote big food and big beverage companies. They have such a problem that the city attorney filed the first government lawsuit ever against makers of ultra-processed foods. They claim that companies like Kraft Heinz and Coca-Cola have knowingly marketed products that put consumers' health at risk. And this has caused a public health crisis, a quote, public health crisis. that has caused a lot of problems with city residents and created a problem that has cost the city lots of money to treat these people who have many illnesses, debilitating illnesses, as a result of eating over-processed foods. I almost said bad foods, but I'm not going to go there. I'm not going to go there. You know, I think this has been a long time coming, especially in this culture where, you know, talk about ultra processed foods, over processed foods has been, you know, top of mind in our industry for, I don't know, how many, how many years now, at least two, three years. And there's, you know, two sides to that story. There are some folks who say we need ultra-processed foods to feed our population. There's overblown concern about over-processed foods or ultra-processed foods. And then on the other hand, You know, let's be honest, you can't have Twinkies every day. You know, you shouldn't be eating a, call it what it is, hamburgers for lunch every single day. You probably shouldn't be drinking every day. You know, I didn't say that, but, you know, I think it's, you know, I'm not surprised by this. I'm not surprised that I'm not endorsing it, but I'm not surprised by it.
[00:11:12] John Craven: I'm surprised that a city is filing a lawsuit like that, but.
[00:11:16] Ray Latif: Well, I think the city feels like they are spending a lot of money to treat people who are getting sick and ill from eating these foods, and they're trying to get some sort of compensation back from the makers of those foods.
[00:11:31] John Craven: No, I mean, it just on the surface seems like using taxpayer money for maybe first of its kind civil litigation is sort of an interesting move right now, that's all. Perhaps, but I guess I'm, you know, just curious to see how it plays out. Yeah, sounds like an inexpensive thing.
[00:11:50] Ray Latif: Well, I think more than anything, it's going to be interesting to see if other cities follow suit, other states follow suit. I mean, we've seen state governments take aim at artificial colors and flavors and things like that. So it would make sense that, you know, other municipalities are going to get involved in lawsuits like this as well. How effective they are, that's the big question, especially when they're going up against conglomerates with billions of dollars in revenue every year. For example, like a Kraft Heinz probably has what? 500 lawyers working for them, something like that. I mean, it's like the amount of lawyers they have. You might as well just call it a law firm that's inside their company. Also in the news, Costco. No one knows what Costco is, right? Should I tell people what Costco is, John?
[00:12:34] John Craven: Probably.
[00:12:35] Ray Latif: Probably. Okay. Costco is a warehouse retailer. I just want to be certain. They have sued the federal government, more specifically the Trump administration, for a refund of the tariffs it has paid on imported goods. Should the Supreme Court rule them illegal? This is based on an article in the New York Times. The complaint, which was filed on Friday, argues that the president misused a 1977 law in his move to implement tariffs on products for more than 100 countries. So this should be interesting to watch as well. I'd say I'm not surprised that Costco is pushing back on this as much as anyone else. I think, you know, we've heard some rumblings among some major retailers about these tariffs and sort of costs they're causing these retailers and then of course the end consumers. But it's Costco who's taking the lead here. I, you know, I've heard day and night that groceries are really, really expensive and continue to get more expensive. And so, you know, pushback was inevitable. And I, myself, I do a lot of shopping for my household. And I'm getting to the point right now where I'm like, I can't go to the grocery store and not spend a hundred bucks. And I'm not talking about a lot of stuff. And I'm not talking about stuff that's more- You do live in Brooklyn. More than the essentials. No, but I mostly shop at Trader Joe's and I'll be honest, you know, I buy a lot of stuff that's on promotion. I don't really look for I try not to buy stuff at regular prices. I really do price shop.
[00:14:06] Mike Schneider: I think also at Costco, things multiply fast. So if one unit is more expensive and people are buying in bulk, then you're going to see a lot bigger of a jump in prices for the consumer, which might be startling for people when they're used to other prices.
[00:14:22] Ray Latif: Absolutely. And, you know, I think Costco is a retailer that a lot of people look to for savings. And if those savings aren't there anymore, then their reputation is probably going to take a hit as well. So continue to follow that story, of course, on Nosh. Remember when I asked you guys if Dubai chocolate has jumped a shark? Oh, yeah. Yes. And then John said famously, or maybe infamously, what? What do you say? Do you remember?
[00:14:47] John Craven: You're absolutely insane and should be committed, right? Joe, was that correct?
[00:14:54] Ray Latif: There was a real giggle over there from our IOPer Joe. That wasn't static. That wasn't crackle static. That was Joe cackling over there. No, I asked if it has jumped the shark and you said, no, it's not going to jump the shark until you get some of these big confectionery companies to buy into this and so good news. To buy into this?
[00:15:17] John Craven: To buy into this, yes, good news.
[00:15:19] Ray Latif: Hershey, the Hershey company, best known for what? Churros, yes, best known for churros. That weird chocolate bar and a kind of blackish wrapper?
[00:15:31] John Craven: There you go. They Do they make the Mr. Good Bar?
[00:15:34] Ray Latif: I think they do. Those are pretty tasty. Yeah. Those are made with peanuts, right? Yeah. They are doing a limited run of 10,000 pistachio and catia-filled bars through GoPuff as a way to reach Gen Z consumers. So they're getting to the Dubai chocolate thing, but on a very limited basis. Is it out now? Yeah, as a GoPuff consumer.
[00:15:53] John Craven: I'm going to buy some.
[00:15:54] Ray Latif: I'm going to buy some by the end of the day. Their chief customer officer said it's a way to reach Gen Z consumers. I don't know if you qualify. Close enough.
[00:16:03] Mike Schneider: They're going to ask for your birth date.
[00:16:05] Ray Latif: That's okay. GoPuff, they have a very specific thing. It says for millennials and Gen Zers only. You've never followed that edict?
[00:16:15] John Craven: Sure.
[00:16:16] Ray Latif: Okay. Well, you should try to get some of that and let us know how it is. I shall. Yes. Okay. At least it's not something that you can buy yet. Otherwise it would really have been there and done that. That is the Dubai chocolate phase.
[00:16:29] Mike Schneider: Yeah, I went to the mall yesterday and they had a kiosk for Dubai chocolate.
[00:16:32] John Craven: Yeah, it's everywhere. Alright, we're gonna move the goalposts. When we have Dubai chocolate toothpaste, then it's chocolate. Who's gonna eat that? You eat toothpaste?
[00:16:42] Mike Schneider: You just had chocolate bone broth.
[00:16:44] Ray Latif: When we have Dubai chocolate spindrift, it's over. Yes, I would say so too. You guys, has anyone here been to Japan? yes you have okay you like the convenience stores over there they're famous love the convenience stores the 7-elevens are like top notch okay top notch but what what are the what is the the convenience stores they're they're best known for i had sushi no egg salad sandwich come on i have tiktok too bro come on okay the egg salad those are delicious too okay so the egg salad sandwich is having a viral moment right now on social media. And a lot of it has to do with the egg salad sandwiches that are sold in convenience stores.
[00:17:19] John Craven: Wait, how did you know about this? I was going to say, you're finally standing on MySpace, right?
[00:17:24] Ray Latif: No, it's actually Friendster. I'm the last person on Friendster right now. I don't even know what Friendster is.
[00:17:30] John Craven: Yeah, exactly. He gets his coverage of social media on the 6 o'clock news. So lonely. No friends on Friendster.
[00:17:36] Ray Latif: So I actually, I was introduced to the amazing egg salad sandwiches from Japan from Anthony Bourdain. I think he was, it was a episode of Parts Unknown. He was visiting Tokyo. And as soon as he got off the plane, he went right to a convenience store, I think it was a 7-Eleven. And he went to a vending machine or maybe it was one of their coolers and he got this sandwich, he opened up and he showed it and it looked so delicious and so fresh and
[00:18:01] John Craven: But when Anthony Bourdain explains something, I'd almost rather hear it from him than eat it. He's the best.
[00:18:07] Ray Latif: Yes, he was the best R.I.P. Still is. Yes, he is. But anyway, 7-Eleven announced. that they are launching these tamago sandos as they're known in 7-Eleven stores across the country across the United States more specifically so and they're made with kewpie you know that kewpie pie the mayonnaise yes is it pronounced kewpie or is it kewpie it's close enough let's go i don't know kewpie you know the mayonnaise yeah yes the squeezable mayonnaise yeah yeah anyway so good and the bread is fluffier the bread's fluffier and i hope Well, the eggs are a little bit more yolky. Yeah, that's that's the key to these egg salad sandwiches So yeah, so simple, but so good.
[00:18:48] John Craven: Absolutely. The best foods are yes.
[00:18:51] Ray Latif: All right I've said all I can say right now. I know you guys are what's more products.
[00:18:55] John Craven: Yeah Did we say that already? Yes, you want to air one? Yeah, I picked up some stuff this Like I love tempeh. Yeah, that does look like something I would love to Yeah, chili hot chili tempeh chips.
[00:19:09] Ray Latif: We recently featured Mama Mae in an episode of Elevator Talk and they just I wonder when a really nice rebrand I know There's a thrasher on the front looks like me fermented black-eyed peas cooked in coconut.
[00:19:21] John Craven: All right, let's let's talk and more eating. That's what is it? What is tempeh? Tempeh is like it. It's kind of like a weird tofu
[00:19:28] Mike Schneider: Yeah, it's like fermented soybeans, usually.
[00:19:31] John Craven: Well, it says it right on the back, which is what I love. It's a wheat product, wasn't it? This is another good example of great branding. These are delicious. That's tempeh? I don't think you're supposed to eat that back.
[00:19:44] Ray Latif: You gave him the freshness wrapper. I did give him the freshness wrapper. Okay, so as described in the back here, a tempeh chip, when we think of peas, we think of small, mighty, protein-packed, nutritious. When we think of chips, we think of crunchy, delicious, and indulgent. Combine the two and you have a magical snack that you've been waiting for, the magnificent tempeh chip.
[00:20:03] John Craven: Okay, there's no one who's ever going to read that because they're just going to be too busy eating. They're gonna see the skater on the front they're gonna know this and the 14 grams of protein and they're gonna be like I'm in Nice, that's that's what's really good.
[00:20:19] Ray Latif: I think that packages in tons of fiber Yes, actually they teased the new package in that episode of Elevator Talk almost unintentionally. The founder had it by her side and I was like, are you breaking news here? And she goes, oh yeah, yeah, this is happening. So glad to see it's out there and glad to see that they're carried at Erewhon.
[00:20:38] John Craven: That's so good. It's actually 10 grams of protein, 14 of fiber. Wow, that's awesome.
[00:20:44] Ray Latif: All right what else you got there? Great purchase.
[00:20:46] John Craven: Well here first I got some some doughy this is like uh refrigerated cookie dough plant-based cookie dough that says you can either eat it raw or bake it. Get that in my belly. It's cashew based. I like the idea of just eating raw cookie dough like why waste time cooking.
[00:21:01] Mike Schneider: Exactly it's better honestly raw.
[00:21:03] Ray Latif: Doughy is spelled like you might like do you think it's spelled? It looks like cookie dough.
[00:21:08] Mike Schneider: Use one of these little
[00:21:09] Ray Latif: Get a little hunk in there. I don't know. D-O-U-G-H-Y. It comes in a pint, like an ice cream pint. Yeah.
[00:21:16] Mike Schneider: How is it?
[00:21:17] John Craven: Is it doughy? Tastes like cookie dough. It's great. It's dense.
[00:21:22] Mike Schneider: And it's packed.
[00:21:23] Ray Latif: 60 calories per serving? What's a serving? That's pretty awesome.
[00:21:27] Mike Schneider: A serving, they say, is one cookie, which is 19 grams. There's 18 servings. Oh, OK. So there's quite a bit in there. Very, very simple ingredients.
[00:21:36] John Craven: You could easily take down that whole. Oh, yeah. It's just cashews. You know what else is good? The doughy whip.
[00:21:42] Ray Latif: a little spicy aftertaste is i'm loving it you know what's interesting you just you just called these tempeh chips tempeh chips you didn't describe them by their brand name is that a problem
[00:21:54] John Craven: No, I don't think so. I mean, I think if you know spicy tempeh chips and yeah, maybe. I just said they're tempeh chips because that's what they are. But would you- Mamma Mae? Mamma Mae. Yeah, I would remember Mamma Mae. You would? Okay. Sure. All right, just thought to ask. I got this kombucha here.
[00:22:11] Ray Latif: Which is called?
[00:22:13] John Craven: The brand is? Kombucha Culture. Kombucha Culture, okay. So in Erewhon, I bought one beverage. I don't know why I only bought one beverage, but this said it was like the number one kombucha from Costa Rica. Okay. Interesting. It comes in a black can. And that is significantly rebranded. Some hints of orange. Yeah, have you seen that in your travels? I'm going to give this one a try. It's a golden hour flavor.
[00:22:32] Ray Latif: It's island roots varieties made with turmeric, ginger, lemon, and black pepper. Kombucha culture. The font is very groovy, very 60s inspired.
[00:22:42] John Craven: USDA organic.
[00:22:43] Ray Latif: This golden hour one's pretty darn tasty. Yeah. 12 ounces. I like that you can rip the label off. They've got a little, cut this label off so you can more easily recycle.
[00:22:51] John Craven: I really like the font of this label and I like it. It's kind of fun. The backwards E is cool. I like how the turmeric, ginger, lemon, black pepper pops out here. And then they gave, I mean, cause like if you're going to call something island roots, you need to explain what it is and they've done it. They made some good choices on this label. I like it. It's groovy. Last thing I bought, this was at the checkout while I was in line. I was standing next to this and I'm like, I gotta buy it. It's Sonoma Creamery Cheddar Cheese Crisps. That looks terrible. Not cheese. Get in there, Jackie.
[00:23:23] Ray Latif: It's a pouch. It's a pouch filled with cheese crisps.
[00:23:27] Mike Schneider: It smells cheesy.
[00:23:29] Ray Latif: As one might expect. It says real cheese.
[00:23:31] John Craven: I mean, usually the only ingredient on these is like cheese, basically.
[00:23:37] Ray Latif: So that's all it is. That's just the one ingredient.
[00:23:39] Mike Schneider: It tastes like when you make mac and cheese, like if you bake it, it's like the crunchies.
[00:23:43] Ray Latif: This one has brown rice and a little quinoa, too. So you pretty much can't make a food product anymore without highlighting the amount of protein that's in there, right? Because you've got a tempeh chip, which I think most people would look at this and say- A Mama May tempeh chip. Mama May tempeh chip, which most people would think, OK, well, I'm going to eat this just for flavor and for fun, for crunch. But highlighted is the fact that they have 10 grams of protein. on these sonoma creamery crisps another button right on the front 10 grams of protein how about this doughy does this say what about this cookie dough right it does have cashews it's gonna have some protein they don't highlight the protein there's only two grams per serving but again there's 18 servings per container and that's more for like indulgence so it is more for indulgence but i don't know i feel like every it's like you can't get away with yeah protein that's a protein bar from unite foods yeah I suspect this is a trend we're going to continue to see for a long time.
[00:24:40] Mike Schneider: And it's cool because tempeh is a staple protein for vegans and vegetarians. So cool to see it as a snack.
[00:24:46] Ray Latif: Well done. Well done. All right. We're going to wrap up here because everyone's got a million things to do, and I just want to make sure we can get to them. That's not to say we don't love you guys and we want to continue to talk to you, but we would hope to talk to you in person. at BevNetLive or BrewerBownLive. So if you're still thinking about making it out here to Marina Del Rey, make the trip, come say hi. Let us introduce you to the people that are going to help you scale your businesses. Those include retailers and investors and all the great people in this industry. If we don't see you, we still love you, but just not as much.
[00:25:21] Jacqui Brugliera: I'm just kidding.
[00:25:22] Ray Latif: I'm just kidding, obviously. No, we'll be back on the mics very soon. But until then, thank you all so much for listening. That brings us to the end of this episode of Taste Radio. Thank you so much for listening. Taste Radio is a production of BevNET.com, Incorporated. Our audio engineer for Taste Radio is Joe Cracci. Our technical director is Joshua Pratt, and our video editor is Ryan Galang. Our social marketing manager is Amanda Smerlinski, and our designer is Amanda Huang. Just a reminder, if you like what you hear on Taste Radio, please share the podcast with friends and colleagues. And of course, we would love it if you could review us on the Apple Podcasts app or your listening platform of choice. Check us out on Instagram. Our handle is bevnettasteradio. As always, for questions, comments, ideas for future podcasts, please send us an email to ask at Taste Radio.com. On behalf of the entire Taste Radio team, thank you for listening, and we'll talk to you next time.
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